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Nov 29, 2005 15:02:26 GMT -5
Post by [AO1]Mctrouble on Nov 29, 2005 15:02:26 GMT -5
Today I observed a player using disgusting language on our #1 server, I asked an admin to boot the player in informed him that I had a screen shot. Boom I was booted??? I hope this was an accident? This is kind of bugging me and I find it upsetting.
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Nov 29, 2005 15:13:17 GMT -5
Post by Dancer-=Of-God=- on Nov 29, 2005 15:13:17 GMT -5
A clan member booted you but i didn't get a chance to see who it was, my cvar check erased the whole pb message. I booted the right guy
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Nov 29, 2005 17:41:30 GMT -5
Post by [AO1]Mctrouble on Nov 29, 2005 17:41:30 GMT -5
Okay the person that booted my told me what happened and he just put the wrong number in for the kick. Just a general word here, getting booted should be a serious thing for all of us and I hope we all remember we are CHRISTIANS in the game as well as out of the game, so maybe a little forgiveness, love thy Neighbor, and understanding come into play on a boot. Unless of course it is very blatant and no remorse is involved. I mean I know we want clean servers and I am very big on booting potty mouths especially the blatant ones, but we are also christians and hopefully we are all interested in the great commission.
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Nov 29, 2005 18:23:41 GMT -5
Post by Innovator-=Of-God=- on Nov 29, 2005 18:23:41 GMT -5
Okay the person that booted my told me what happened and he just put the wrong number in for the kick. Just a general word here, getting booted should be a serious thing for all of us and I hope we all remember we are CHRISTIANS in the game as well as out of the game, so maybe a little forgiveness, love thy Neighbor, and understanding come into play on a boot. Unless of course it is very blatant and no remorse is involved. I mean I know we want clean servers and I am very big on booting potty mouths especially the blatant ones, but we are also christians and hopefully we are all interested in the great commission. I'm with you there in spirit -- But I seldom have to make judgement calls on kicks. Most of the time, (virtually always for rule #1 violations, which is the most common offense) the clan policy is quite clear on whether or not an offense merits a warning or a kick. It's our duty to uphold this policy to the letter, to our best abilities. And I'm not trying to be argumentative at all. I've just seen enough clan members who don't seem to understand policy about kicks very well that I wanted to take the opportunity to clarify that we're not writing policy as offenses come along. The policy is set. If anyone is unsure if they have a full understanding of it, first read it. Then, if you're unsure about something in it, or run across a case you don't know how to deal with, ask Peace or an LC member, they've always been more than willing to help me out. All right, I'm done.
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Nov 29, 2005 18:27:13 GMT -5
Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Nov 29, 2005 18:27:13 GMT -5
-- you go, Dan! ;D
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Nov 29, 2005 19:00:44 GMT -5
Post by Dancer-=Of-God=- on Nov 29, 2005 19:00:44 GMT -5
Okay the person that booted my told me what happened and he just put the wrong number in for the kick. Just a general word here, getting booted should be a serious thing for all of us and I hope we all remember we are CHRISTIANS in the game as well as out of the game, so maybe a little forgiveness, love thy Neighbor, and understanding come into play on a boot. Unless of course it is very blatant and no remorse is involved. I mean I know we want clean servers and I am very big on booting potty mouths especially the blatant ones, but we are also Christians and hopefully we are all interested in the great commission. Would we be good Christians if we let other people's children play on a server where swearing goes without consequences ? Even if the 'offender' of our server rules says sorry before getting booted he still has to pay the consequences but at least he apologized for it (which for me is a reason to not submit him for our MBL -- if the offense isn't that big of course) What i"m trying to say is that forgiveness not necessarily means that you don't have to pay the consequences. My 2 cents :Scratch-Chin:
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Nov 29, 2005 19:05:42 GMT -5
Post by Dynasty-=Of-God=- (David) on Nov 29, 2005 19:05:42 GMT -5
Hey Marco, I thought that if they apologised after a kick-able word, we still submit them and they get an automatic stage 2 unban
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Nov 29, 2005 19:12:19 GMT -5
Post by Dancer-=Of-God=- on Nov 29, 2005 19:12:19 GMT -5
Hey Marco, I thought that if they apologised after a kick-able word, we still submit them and they get an automatic stage 2 unban It really depends on the situation like i said. Not often people apologize after their offense so most of the time they'll get submitted for our MBL anyway.
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Nov 29, 2005 19:15:56 GMT -5
Post by rev216 on Nov 29, 2005 19:15:56 GMT -5
This topic has been debated many times over, and has been here much longer than most of you have been in this Clan. What I have learned over the time that I have been here is that most of the time a kick is necessary in those cases. The rules are there to protect the people that play there. Bear in mind that most of the time when -=Of-God=- people are around, that is ususally who is playing in the servers, so much of the time is spent protecting our own brothers. Most of the time it's Kick, BAM, it's over, move on to the next topic. I have found that it is pretty rare for people to really cause problems with the issue. Even rarer for them to come to the forums to complain about it. There are those on occassion that think they will get back into the server to cause issues, but then there is the BAN feature for those kinds of people. Morality is the only thing that we, as people, can regulate. A quick trip to another server will dispell any feelings of wanting to play somewhere else very quickly, in most cases. Quite simply, these rules have been thought out and implemented long ago. They work, and they keep the servers a nice place to play, and if the only unpleasentness is someone being booted once in a while, then I can deal with that. ;D
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Dec 6, 2005 17:54:37 GMT -5
Post by [AO1]Mctrouble on Dec 6, 2005 17:54:37 GMT -5
okay I think you all missed the point I was trying to make but I guess thats okay. My ethics are intact as is my morality, I was not saying to not boot people for vulgar langauge. I am just saying I have seen people booted for even questioning people. Sorry to have questioned anyones sense of rightiousness.
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Dec 7, 2005 22:15:41 GMT -5
Post by Riches (Rich) on Dec 7, 2005 22:15:41 GMT -5
I know I'm new here. And I've read and understand when a player has crossed the line on the server in terms of language. But I also have to agree with Jim that sometimes it seems that people are super eager to boot players. Questioning an admin's decision is obvious and requires it, and in most cases the language is obvious and requires it. But there are times when I see a player kicked for a word that everyone here knows is a euphanism, but to the the general public and new players is clean to most. In those cases I would like to see a warning given to the new player. If the player argues instead of agreeing then they get the kick. The idea being we can show the new person what not to say, and point them to the forum for the clear explanation of why we are strict on the rules. Again as others have said, in most cases the player knows they're on a no profanity server when they say the major no no's and should get kicked right away. But those that don't understand euphanisms, deserver at least a warning.
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Dec 7, 2005 22:19:21 GMT -5
Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Dec 7, 2005 22:19:21 GMT -5
Sounds like you've been reading the rules on kicking, Rich -- because that's exactly how they're set up. Curses get kicks; euphemisms get warnings, then kicks if they're repeated.
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Dec 7, 2005 23:02:39 GMT -5
Post by Gravity (Mike) on Dec 7, 2005 23:02:39 GMT -5
I even give a warning for Curses even an F-Bomb. If they question or argue. I kick them no arguement. I always give a warning before I kick them.
But I get very serious when someone takes the Lords name in vain. But will give them a warning then, but kick them right away so they understand why.
I know that I should be kicking. But people are good and usually apologize after. But people always rush to pb kick a person out of the server, its like a compation. I should be a bit stricker.
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Dec 8, 2005 2:48:24 GMT -5
Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Dec 8, 2005 2:48:24 GMT -5
Let me put it this way: IF I SEE A CLAN MEMBER GIVING A WARNING FOR A CURSE, THAT CLAN MEMBER WILL BE THE NEXT PERSON THAT GETS KICKED! You all know the rules -- why do you insist on making up your own as you go?? Either follow the rules as is, until such time as they are revised -- or suffer the consequences. PERIOD!
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Dec 8, 2005 2:58:21 GMT -5
Post by Dream-=Of-God=- on Dec 8, 2005 2:58:21 GMT -5
Curses also include the likes of acronyms(ones that use in A or F words), correct? I do kick people that use any curse, whether it's abbreviated or not.
Come on guys and gals, they SHOULD know better. It says NO PROFANITY in the Server Name when they join! All cursing is an immediate kick, but they are allowed to come on the forums and humbly apologize for their offense and be removed from our banlist(if they were submitted in the first place).
As for the Lord's name in vain; I will kick them if they use it with a curse. However, if someone uses the common phrase "om-", then I will warn them because my understanding of the rules is that acronyms that ONLY use the A and F words are no-warning kicks, so this excludes the common "om-". If I need to change that way of thinking, please let me know. It's so habitual for people to use the "om-" that I warn them and if they do it again, they're gone. They had their second chance, abused it, and were disposed because of that.
My two cents.
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Dec 8, 2005 3:05:22 GMT -5
Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Dec 8, 2005 3:05:22 GMT -5
That is perfectly correct, Joe.
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Dec 8, 2005 11:42:42 GMT -5
Post by barondoc on Dec 8, 2005 11:42:42 GMT -5
I just follow the rules. I got no opinion on them either way. Someone comes in and cusses they get kicked its only 15 mins. They can come back. If they do it again then i will put them up on the MBL submission board.
We kicked a guy today for complaining about camping he was warned 3 times...and i kick people for calling others noobs after i have warned them or making fun of others for their lack of skill.
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Dec 9, 2005 22:44:13 GMT -5
Post by [AO1]Mctrouble on Dec 9, 2005 22:44:13 GMT -5
It seems we are still hung up on cursing,,,,,, again not my point but thats okay I will do exactly as instructed in the RULES. Thank you all for your input and god bless you all.
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