Jamie
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Post by Jamie on Jun 19, 2006 1:00:48 GMT -5
Ok this will be quite a story so take some time for it. Some time ago, a discussion started on the -=Of-God=- forum. About Homosexuality. A part of the people agreed, and some didn't. Well that is no problem, but things got out of hand. People got angry, and lots of things happened, and things are said and done without there was a need for it. Unfortunately, things have gotten way to far out of hand, and we, me man my staff, had to step on the break to stop this. Like most people now by now, Ernie has left his clan. Clan members on my forum can read that Ruud has left our clan, and that Rock has been kicked out. Ruud can't stand that our clan will apologize for the things that are being said, and are being done. In my opinion, most people have been wrong here, including me, and most important, people on BOTH sides have made some serious mistakes. Ruud had the choice to co-oporate with the rest of the staff, or leave... And he has chosen to leave. (And tried to slander some people on my own server  , he his banned now) Ernie got the choice, to leave the clan, or apologize. He left, I will not act like that. I take my responsibility and post here in public for the following personal reasons: -Using scripts my own forum, completely written by Jeff, aka Peace-=Of-God=- -Behaving not very respectfully towards some of the -=Of-God=- members. Now my anger is gone, I can't see he reason why I acted the way I did.. -I want to say sorry to all the people I offended  . In name of my members: I ask you all to respect the things my members have said. As you know most of us spent pretty much time in the -=Of-God=- clan. It was pretty much a disappointment to see that the things are said, well, that they are said.. I hope we can "forget" the things that are happened, and that we can build on a very strong relationship in the future. Something I really learned from this, a mistake that I have made twice now (already  ).. People that have send me a message in private, I have brought those out into the open. This will not happen again, and I ask all of you (take it as a free tip  ) to contact me, Jeff, or any staff member from either your or my clan if there is anything that occurs between you and a clanmember, or somebody from my clan, allies, or forum guests, I dont care. I am sure we can solve this out! David (Dynasty-=Of-God), Paul (Gardener-=Of-God=-) and Jeff, helped me with me with constructing parts of the forum, I think that was/is a very cool action of them. Thanks guys. edit: Something I want to add, this was not an easy discussion, I lost 6 members in two days.. -McC. Clan Leader -McC. iRoNiC^ Jamie p.s. It is great to be back here again  |
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Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Jun 19, 2006 1:37:50 GMT -5
I know that you've already seen the response of my alterego "Cpl. Chicken" to the above over at your forum, Jamie ... but just for the record here as well, and for those here who haven't read your post above in its original thread over there: I want to thank Jamie for taking this step toward reconciliation ... I know it wasn't easy. And you all have no idea of all the discussions that have gone on behind the scenes between the -McC. leadership and I about all of this mess. On behalf of The -=Of-God=- Clan, I would like to accept your public apology, both here and on our forum as well, once I have restored your privileges there. ~ Because of Christ's compelling love, Jeff Spiller ~ Peace-=Of-God=- a.k.a. "Cpl.Chicken" We've all had a hard 2-3 weeks here ... both clans have lost members over the problems between us ... and a lot of harsh words have been said among members and former members of both clans. As far as I'm concerned, this whole mess ended when Jamie posted the above at the -McC. forum on Saturday afternoon. (It just took a couple of days for the logistics of ban removals, etc., to work their way over to this forum for the re-posting. ) I want to extend a special welcome and thank-you to one other -McC. member in particular (not that the rest of you guys aren't important ) ... but without this one man's intervention, calm spirit, and patience in reading and writing the miles and miles of emails and PM's that flowed between his computer and mine, this reconciliation might never have happened. Marco, my friend -- welcome back ... and thank you for your special efforts and assistance in helping to bring this about. Even though there are still some ideological/philosophical/Biblical differences of belief between us, that doesn't mean that we need to end the relationship over it. And as a result of the efforts in repairing the relationship, I've seen a major turnaround in the -McC. clan in the last two days -- not just the turnover of people leaving/being required to leave ... but a major shift in their attitude, demeanor, and practices. Jamie, Marco, and Marcus, as the leader and staff of -McC., are now doing everything within their power to make -McC. a GOOD clan, rather than just a STRONG clan (yes, there is a difference ) -- including the forceful removal (and subsequent banishment) of two of their members who only sought to cause more trouble and strife between us (as Jamie mentioned above). In their endeavor to become a GOOD clan, they have my full backing and support as a friend -- just as I supported ].[JuDge in his smashingly-successful efforts to clean up the residue of the "No Surrender" clan and re-organize it as "Get to the Point" -- and I am certain that they will be at least as successful in this endeavor as TJ was. Welcome back to The -=Of-God=- Clan Forum, Jamie & company! And it really is good to see you folks here again. |
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Post by lethal on Jun 19, 2006 1:42:25 GMT -5
It's good to be back!
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Post by Dancer-=Of-God=- on Jun 19, 2006 2:25:53 GMT -5
Good to be here again, must have clicked my bookmark link a thousand times to see if i got acces again to the OG forums ;D I know this is not a forgive and forget situation but that some of the wounds need time to heal and that's understandable. We're tired of being angry and veangefull so we hope there's room in your hearts again for forgiveness. I missed a lot of you guys and being here again with friends I made over the last 2 years is AWESOME!! Jeff, you are a great leader and I made a misstake by forgetting that, the fact that you still helped us under an alternate account on our forum is admirable and moved us a lot. So I hereby offer you my apoligies for ever doubting you. Without you 'peace' would be still far away A lot has happened over the last 2 days in -McC. , we had to let some members go because we tried to solve the issues between our clans but i believe that we form a strong base now with the members who decided to stay. It hurts to see members leave over this but I believe we made the right desicions and can form a clan to be proud of. Jamie and Marcus, i'm so proud of you guys for doing the right thing! to quote one of my favorite people in AA..  Marco - |
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Post by Ranger-=Of-God=- on Jun 19, 2006 7:25:44 GMT -5
Glad to see things are getting better again. I really had doubts if this entire situation would turn out as good as this. Great to have you McC guys back on the forum and I really hope that things will only get better between out two clans from now.
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Ezra
Former Clan Member
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Post by Ezra on Jun 19, 2006 7:33:09 GMT -5
Good to be here again, must have clicked my bookmark link a thousand times to see if i got acces again to the OG forums ;D Marco - Yeah, I know that The first day's I even accidentely clicked on the forum by habit  But I can go and type a hole story right now, but Marco and Jamie have said all what I would say. So nothing more to add from me. I am just happy that I am back here to spam this forum It's so good to see that the relationship between McC and Of-God is getting so much better now! -Ezra |
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ironringer
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Post by ironringer on Jun 19, 2006 8:39:40 GMT -5
Welcome back, guys. I'm really glad to see things are patched up, and wish you the best success at building your clan (a GOOD clan as Jeff said!). |
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Post by Dream-=Of-God=- on Jun 19, 2006 8:52:59 GMT -5
Welcome back, everyone. I am relieved to see that the issues between -=Of-God=- and -McC. have been resolved through patience, courage, and integrity.
Hope to see you all on the forums again and in our servers as well. I'll try to stop by the -McC. forums/servers as well.
God Bless,
Joe
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Post by Princess-=Of-God=- on Jun 19, 2006 9:22:22 GMT -5
I am so glad that the problems have worked out between our clans. I am tearing up as I am reading this and Peace knows that I don't do that much. You MCC guys have shown so much maturity in taking the steps to apologize for you and your clan's actions. Very commendable!! Praise the Lord that it is all being worked out and now is the time to band together so Satan doesn't get another hold in either clan and tear us apart agian.
Welcome back to the forums guys.
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Post by moogapower on Jun 19, 2006 9:42:05 GMT -5
What can I say? I am so pleased that everything has worked together for good! Can't wait to play with you all again!  |
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Jamie
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Post by Jamie on Jun 19, 2006 9:56:31 GMT -5
I am so glad that the problems have worked out between our clans. I am tearing up as I am reading this and Peace knows that I don't do that much. You MCC guys have shown so much maturity in taking the steps to apologize for you and your clan's actions. Very commendable!! Praise the Lord that it is all being worked out and now is the time to band together so Satan doesn't get another hold in either clan and tear us apart agian. Welcome back to the forums guys. Thank you for your kind words Karie. Tell your guy, when he is at home, that he is the best husband you can wish |
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Companion (Joe)
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Post by Companion (Joe) on Jun 19, 2006 10:25:17 GMT -5
Welcome back, guys. I'm glad the issues were resolved and we can be friends with your clan, Jamie. Had fun with Sean on our server last night.  |
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Post by Adopted-=Of-God=- (Aaron) on Jun 19, 2006 10:28:23 GMT -5
I've been praying for this to happen for the past couple of days, I had doubts that this would ever be resolved. But It has!
WElcome back and I wish you guys luck as you build your clan up!
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Post by Shelter-=Of-God=- (Jon) on Jun 19, 2006 10:37:27 GMT -5
It's good to see that love has overcome hate once again.
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Eskimo
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Post by Eskimo on Jun 19, 2006 12:17:20 GMT -5
Welcome back McC members. Glad to see you on the forums again and look forward to playing with you all again sometime.
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Post by dabomb on Jun 19, 2006 12:19:51 GMT -5
Howdy y'all!! Good to be back here, been a long time ago, bout 3 weeks. I hope I can be friends with you all again and that the relationship between our clans will turn out to a very strong and good one. Once again, it's good to be back  Yori |
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Post by Princess-=Of-God=- on Jun 19, 2006 12:24:47 GMT -5
Thank you for your kind words Karie. Tell your guy, when he is at home, that he is the best husband you can wish I agree.  I will do that, but I'm sure he will get this message before he gets home. |
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Mister-T
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Post by Mister-T on Jun 19, 2006 13:40:52 GMT -5
I was 1 of the 6 members that left -McC. in 2 days .... the most left cuz the problem whit ernie. I left cuz some private reasons at my famelie in real life. -Snuck ps I'm sorry if I was disperrect full against -=Of-God=- and there members ( I had a little pm fight whit arena ) .. |
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Post by Meekness-=Of-God=- (Brian) on Jun 19, 2006 19:40:11 GMT -5
Welcome back McC to our forums....I was a PR when everything took place...I was praying for reconcilation because Love covers all  god Bless you all |
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Solace (Sean)
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Post by Solace (Sean) on Jun 19, 2006 20:32:27 GMT -5
Glad everything is finally resolved. Time to move on and put this behind us ;D.
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).. People that have send me a message in private, I have brought those out into the open. This will not happen again, and I ask all of you (take it as a free tip 
) to contact me, Jeff, or any staff member from either your or my clan if there is anything that occurs between you and a clanmember, or somebody from my clan, allies, or forum guests, I dont care. I am sure we can solve this out!
