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Post by BlackBelt on Mar 3, 2008 3:29:50 GMT -5
Hi, I was thinking about writing some sort of training guide to help people who are stuck some where. or do yall think that would be like cheating. Please let me know.
Bye, Fire_blazer
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Post by andrewbuddy12 on Mar 3, 2008 4:31:39 GMT -5
I forget if we've talked about this in years past. I for one am against helping people with training as the purpose of it is to test your ability in those areas. Especially with the SF Training (E&E), I feel like the reason its there is to sort out the SF-quality players from the regular ones. It took me about a month to get past that... and I felt really proud when I did. Giving people help takes away from that.
But... this is my opinion, and the rest of the guys in the clan may think otherwise.
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Post by Breathed-=Of-God=-(Kyle) on Mar 3, 2008 9:21:57 GMT -5
I agree. If someone cares enough to get SF, they will be willing to waste...I mean invest... the time to get it right. It only took me a half hour, but I watched my friend try for a long time before he could. As far as the other training, no real tips are required as they are merely a test of hand eye coordination. If you are talking about map tips, the clan already has one here
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Post by Gardener-=Of-God=- on Mar 3, 2008 11:39:30 GMT -5
I feel relatively certain that in the past, our foremost cheater expert (Jeff) has not indicated that he had a problem with giving guides or otherwise help with training exercises (as long as no one does your training for you). Personally, I might agree with Andrew and Kyle if I was impressed with the E&E training, but I am not in the least. There are numerous things about the programming that are counter intuitive and the advice they give you is misleading. In my opinion they simply did a poor job on it.
If my memory is warmed up, I can make it through E&E training in 20-30 minutes easily, but that's after figuring out all of the bugs, oddities of programming, and enemy positions, which can take hours and hours depending on how you go about it (especially if you make the prior assumption that the developers did a good job).
So, because most of the work has nothing to do with actual game skill or game strategy (but rather strategy in beating the buggy system), and is greatly effected by luck (some people just sit down and get it done in under 2 hours without ever having taken a look at it before), I don't have any problem with people by-passing a large part of the non-game-related headaches.
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Post by BlackBelt on Mar 3, 2008 14:22:54 GMT -5
Hmmm... that's two "No"s and one "Yes". I guess I won't. Bye, Fire_blazer
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Post by Phalanx-=Of-God=- (James) on Mar 3, 2008 19:13:29 GMT -5
I say go ahead and post. E&E is artificially long and arduous. Since there's no way to simulate fatigue, hunger, and light and noise discipline in game, E&E is more or less a demo rather than an actual training exercise. It shows something like what the SF guys have to go through to be successful, but really contributes nothing to the game. That's what you all came here to do, wasn't it? Play a game? The only way you're going to learn how to hide, fight, and disengage is going to be through actual matches and in game experience. The sooner you can get the artificial demonstration over with, the faster you can get to experiencing and learning from the hardcore AA players out there.
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Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Mar 3, 2008 21:56:00 GMT -5
You might wish to check out some of the guides that have already been posted in the "Inside the Game" sub-board here, before you go "re-inventing the wheel" . Other than that, though (as Gardener mentioned), we do not regard the use of "guides" or "walk-through's" as cheating, but having someone else actually do your training for you is cheating. As long as you're the one pushing the buttons to get your character through the training mission, it is acceptable to receive guidance from a "virtual drill instructor" (such as a walk-through or a friend standing behind you).
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Post by Strings-=Of-God=- (Bill)† on Mar 3, 2008 21:57:06 GMT -5
I have a very detailed E&E walk through with pics, but I have to have your email so I can send it. It is to large to post here unless I put in in the aa post board.
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Post by BlackBelt on Mar 4, 2008 0:48:42 GMT -5
[ADMIN EDIT: Moved to the "Inside the Game!" board here. Removed links to Neoseeker guides, as Neoseeker does not have the author's permission to host those guides -- replaced the first Neoseeker link with a link to the same guide on an authorized site; removed the second link completely, as the info in it was obsolete. "Blaze Trainer" appears to be a legitimate program for teaching you to improve your mouse skills, although the description of it at that link contains some inappropriate language -- click the link at your own risk. ~ Peace
Original post follows:]
I guess that would be like "reinventing the wheel" as Peace put it, and E and E alone would probably be too long. So I'll put some links to guides that have already been written: db.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/americas_army_training_a.txtdeletedforum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?t=175897Also here's a program that might help a little, it's called Blaze trainer: www.download.com/Blaze-Trainer/3000-7452_4-10634189.html?tag=lst-2That's all I can think of. Bye, Fire_blazer
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Post by BlackBelt on Mar 4, 2008 22:02:47 GMT -5
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