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Post by Patriot(Tim) on Sept 14, 2005 12:20:18 GMT -5
Hey,
I just read the important message, and i'm a bit shocked to read this. First of all, didn't know there was a glitch that involved bunny-hopping. Second, can we be a little loose on the rule the first week or so? I'm pretty much used to hopping around, especially when I'm wounded.
Also, what's the kicking protocol on this one, warn then kick?
Greetz,
Tim
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Post by Puppy (Jonny) on Sept 14, 2005 13:05:55 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat as you Patriot. I had no idea there was a glitch involving jumping around. How exactly does it work? Does it only engage after you've jumped a third time? I just want to make sure I have all the info straight here.
Thanks,
Jonny
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Post by Dancer-=Of-God=- on Sept 14, 2005 13:14:34 GMT -5
I'm a bunny hopper and never heared about this glitch before. I understand we can't do that anymore now we know this information but after reading your message i feel like i'm concidered a glitcher/cheater even though i never knew this.
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Post by Fighter(Trevor) on Sept 14, 2005 15:31:20 GMT -5
To be honest with you, I think the rule is stupid. My hand just loves clicking the JUMP bottom and it would be hard for a lot of us to break the habit. I'll admit I have done the Jump-Headshot glitch a couple times but every time it was an accident and I know I wouldn't be able to do it again even if I tried. We should be able to kick people who just do the jump-headshot glitch constantly but not take away bunny-hopping.
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Post by Salvation (Steve) on Sept 14, 2005 18:23:44 GMT -5
I will admit that I am one of the happy people about this rule. I do bunny hop and only started to b/c everyone else was doing it and it was giving them an advantage so to keep up I had to learn to do it. Problem is, if done correctly (and I have done it many times by accident) there is an automatic headshot at the end of the jump if timed correctly. Not going into details. We are not the only server to ban bunny hopping. I have seen 2 that I remember and there could be more. If I remember exactly what servers they are I will edit and let you know. Hopefully in 2.5 the glitch will be gone.  Honestly, imho, they should take out jumping all together as there are not that many places one needs to jump to in the game (at least on McKenna) unless you are trying to rush upper Charlie from Grey and trying to get in little room or trying to jump up on the pallets leaning up on the walls. I don't know about other maps (like there are any) that require jumping but there could be. You map people would know that as I am not a smart man when it comes to the other maps  |
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Post by Solace (Sean) on Sept 14, 2005 18:49:15 GMT -5
I think we should just ban bunny - hopping/ HS glitch and not bunny-hopping cause everyone knows what the glitch looks like and people (i.e. ME!) are probably gonna end up getting banned cause I jump no matter what..it's a reflex when I'm being shot at or when I'm rushing for an objective. But I have never in recent memory exploited that said glitch. I just hop around.
One more thing and then my rambling will be done. In terms of the glitch, I really don't care if I'm the victim of the exploit. IT IS A GAME! That is what it is. We aren't gonna earn a medal for having a high frag rate and we're not going to get recognition for accomplishing a "important" feat. One of the major ideas of this clan is understanding that Americas Army is a game. From day one, when I posted in the Aspirations board, I was told to have fun and don't worry about frag rate or honor or anything relating to the game. Just have a positive, well-meaning attitude, and the clan will accept me.
Well, I don't worry about it. It doesn't bother me if I die 10 times in a row, or I don't raise my honor. I believe we have forgotten what this clan is centered around. We are a clan that expresses our love for God. And I was taught to express that on the server. Instead, we are making sticter rules on dumb exploits and not enough rules about people disobeying our morals on the server. Countless times have I read someone use profanity on #1, and I was unable to kick them due to a high-ranking member being on the server, yet he or she was busy playing the game so they could not see it.
So, I have expressed my belief on this rule and all I can say is remember what this clan is about. Preaching love, not restrictions.
Sean
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Post by Pioneer on Sept 14, 2005 18:58:48 GMT -5
What is this glitch? The only time I hop around is when I'm getting shot at and am red or yellow and I don't really care so I jsut jump around. Also When I get flashed I start jumping around so that I'm a moving target (thus harder) for the opfor. We can't do that anymore?
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Post by Herdsman (Dave) on Sept 15, 2005 7:40:08 GMT -5
One thing I think we can all agree on, the devs should have fixed this problem long ago...
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Post by Gardener-=Of-God=- on Sept 15, 2005 8:03:51 GMT -5
I would suggest (and may have to do myself) binding hop to a different key for a while. That way you can still hop but it's always deliberate, never "accidentally". I'm thinking that will make the transition easier. BTW, Jeff. does the hop/headshot exploit simply give ridiculously high accuracy when as one comes down, or what? Just out of curiosity...
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Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Sept 15, 2005 9:58:05 GMT -5
The glitch is that any random shot in the general direction of an OpFor at the correct instant in the hop process will score an instant headshot (even if that shot would have missed by several feet, or maybe nicked the enemy's leg or something, had the shooter been standing or walking). That's why it's such a nefarious exploit that we have decided to ban it -- because the glitch takes total misses and turns them into free kills.  |
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Post by Gardener-=Of-God=- on Sept 15, 2005 10:05:23 GMT -5
Wow. How odd. Maybe the devs put it in for themselves and didn't think others would find it? |
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Post by 1nighthawk1 on Sept 15, 2005 11:34:31 GMT -5
hahaha!I have taken away my hope key:(
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Post by Messanjah (Tyler) on Sept 15, 2005 11:40:53 GMT -5
Hmm, this is very interesting. As Fortress can attest to, I have been the "bunny-hopper" on several occasions, one of which was versus an RPK. An OPFOR came up the ladder in Upper Blue and started shooting at me just after I started reloading my AK. I hopped around for several seconds before I realized that I had reloaded and could return fire. I managed to get the OPFOR to Red/bleeding before being dispatched myself. Oh well, I can't play anymore, so I guess it doesn't affect me. Hopefully the Devs will fix that glitch and we can allow hopping again.  |
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Post by andrewbuddy12 on Sept 15, 2005 14:17:14 GMT -5
I know that it's rather gutsy of me to ask... but was this a fully L.C. board supported rule?
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Post by Herdsman (Dave) on Sept 15, 2005 16:50:52 GMT -5
Honestly, imho, they should take out jumping all together as there are not that many places one needs to jump to in the game (at least on McKenna) unless you are trying to rush upper Charlie from Grey and trying to get in little room or trying to jump up on the pallets leaning up on the walls. I don't know about other maps (like there are any) that require jumping but there could be. You map people would know that as I am not a smart man when it comes to the other maps Trust me, they can't take hopping out altogether. Take a map like JRTC Farm; there are fences all over it that you can hop. Not really important here, but thought I'd add that. |
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Post by Fortress-=Of-God=- on Sept 15, 2005 17:26:40 GMT -5
OK recently i Downloaded kuma war and believe me a game without jumping is no Fun i mean no more jumping over the yellow building wall it feels like your glued to the ground i mean anyone who thinks they should just take jumpijng out maybe you should just completely unbind jump from any key for me it would be no fun i mean jumping is fun even if im not under fire i will jump around a bit i dont know why but it is just fun i mean now that there saying bunny hopping will be out in the next version ppl now wanna take out strafing and they wanna take out couching while firing just seems that if they took those out this game would be no fun no more a and d walking sideways i hope they dont do that but who knows...
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Post by Hammer-=Of-God=- (Matt) on Sept 15, 2005 18:24:29 GMT -5
Swordsmith said: IT IS A GAME! That is what it is. We aren't gonna earn a medal for having a high frag rate and we're not going to get recognition for accomplishing a "important" feat. One of the major ideas of this clan is understanding that Americas Army is a game. From day one, when I posted in the Aspirations board, I was told to have fun and don't worry about frag rate or honor or anything relating to the game. Just have a positive, well-meaning attitude, and the clan will accept me. Well, I don't worry about it. It doesn't bother me if I die 10 times in a row, or I don't raise my honor. I believe we have forgotten what this clan is centered around. We are a clan that expresses our love for God. And I was taught to express that on the server. Instead, we are making sticter rules on dumb exploits and not enough rules about people disobeying our morals on the server. Countless times have I read someone use profanity on #1, and I was unable to kick them due to a high-ranking member being on the server, yet he or she was busy playing the game so they could not see it. Hammer said:  |
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Post by =M.i.x.= on Sept 15, 2005 20:06:45 GMT -5
It is almost impossible to perform this glitch on clue...Most of the time it happens by accident...Are we seriously making a rule because we think that maybe someone is shooting us after jumping come on.
I think it's a good idea to warn ppl...and if we see them use it more than once then kick them, but, Bunny hopping is part of the game....you learn to bunny hop before you get to 11 honor. For those of us who bunny hop regularly and have NEVER SEEN THIS GLITCH HAPPEN how can we say that it is a problem....look at it this way
If in 2.5 you get an auto headshot everytime you stop running....will we ban running...NO!...we will penalize ppl who use the glitch and encourage those who don't...
ON that note...
I think we should move this topic to the open forum where only clan members can see it. This is a clan issue...not public
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Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Sept 15, 2005 20:16:14 GMT -5
It's very easy for some people to perform the exploit on demand -- otherwise it wouldn't be an issue. This is a SERVER issue, not just a clan issue. The rule will be going on the server for all to see. And apparently some posters in this thread have trouble with reading, since they apparently thinking that we're outlawing all forms of jumping  . You are still permitted to jump -- jump twice in a row if you want -- but end it there, or else it looks like you're trying to exploit the glitch. Yes, all LC members who have put in their input on this have been in complete agreement., as indicated in this thread here. I'm closing this thread now -- please carry on any further discussion (which will not change the ruling anyway) in that thread. Thank you. |
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. You are still permitted to jump -- jump twice in a row if you want -- but end it there, or else it looks like you're trying to exploit the glitch.