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Oct 1, 2005 22:55:18 GMT -5
Post by ghost on Oct 1, 2005 22:55:18 GMT -5
I know this probably doesn't happen alot on your server, cause well i play there alot. However, I was playing there today and an admin changed the weapons while your server was in army official mode, which is against the terms of service you agreed to, when you leased your server. If someone complains about that to goaa, your server can be taken down, and you lose any money you have paid on it. It almost happened to our clan. I just wanted to let you know, that your not allowed to change weapons while server is in army official mode.
Thanks,
Ghost
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Oct 1, 2005 23:51:04 GMT -5
Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Oct 1, 2005 23:51:04 GMT -5
Thank you for your concern, but the GoAA ToS says nothing about any weapons forceclass changes; you can read it yourself here. Our proper understanding of the contract is that as long as the EULA is not violated by altering game files to make this happen automatically, and as long as weapons are distributed equally to all players, then there is no violation of any EULA, ToS, or RoE. Even so, only rarely will we forceclass all players to another class. And even then, we do honor the request of anyone who is in the server that prefers that we do not do so while they are there (a group of people which, incidentally, includes me personally). If an admin suggests a weapons change, or just does a weapons change (and it is ALWAYS to the SAME weapon, for fairness' sake), and then anyone requests in the server chat (not in the forum, since that is obviously not going to get the request in to the admin in time) that this not be done, or not be done again -- our admins are under standing orders to honor that request, and to not do or suggest another forceclass until all parties who raised an objection have left the server.
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Oct 2, 2005 3:03:13 GMT -5
Post by Dancer-=Of-God=- on Oct 2, 2005 3:03:13 GMT -5
I only did it once yesterday just to make sure my weapon files worked. People were requesting it and noöne opposed the idea at that moment, after the round was over someone asked me to quit the weapon changes and so i did. (couldn't get my files to work because i didn't add the extension to the 'EXEC file' command)
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Dec 7, 2005 16:45:44 GMT -5
Post by Patriot(Tim) on Dec 7, 2005 16:45:44 GMT -5
Hmm:
If they consider the forceclass command cheating, this isn't allowed indeed. Is forceclass a cheat option? I.E is it considered a cheat by AA? Cause if it is not, it is perfectly legal to use the forceclass to change the weapons for that round.
BTW: I don't see anything about it being illegal to give someone an advantage by giving it an extra strong gun. But that depends on the forceclass command; if that is illegal, giving only 1 person a different gun is illegal as well.
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Dec 7, 2005 17:05:11 GMT -5
Post by Peace-=Of-God=- on Dec 7, 2005 17:05:11 GMT -5
"admin forceclass" has nothing to do with the built-in "mpcheat" commands, so that doesn't relate. "admin forceclass" is valid and legal (even on an HONOR server), as long as the changes are made evenly across the board.
However, it is a violation of the HONOR system to favor one person over someone else (for example, to make me the RPK class and everyone else the RCT class [no gun]).
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Dec 12, 2005 16:13:12 GMT -5
Post by Gz^-Forge- on Dec 12, 2005 16:13:12 GMT -5
In my books weapon swaps are fine(unless of course as Peace mentioned a guest requests it not be done), as long as they are done in a "timely" manner. In other words, the beginning of the round. Don't know about you guys but having my gun switched out as I am entering upper blue while on loy and then getting creamed while I am preparing my new gun is a little on the annoying side. Granted, it can be comic relief when you have a guy rushing full bore for alpha, SAW in hand, only yo have his gun switched to an M82 with it's crazy recoil just as he steps in the door. Happened on another server I was playing on and the guy just stopped. He appeared to be completely lost(luckily for me as he popped right in the door as I rounded the corner of the ladder room). Luckily a teammate took him out for me, as I can't shoot an unscoped sniper rifle to save my life.
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Dec 12, 2005 19:01:01 GMT -5
Post by Dream-=Of-God=- on Dec 12, 2005 19:01:01 GMT -5
My favorite admin forceclass is when Ed gives us all RCT(No Gun) and we have to get the objectives and defend against the enemies by blocking them! Good times(when I was up in the wee hours of the morning when Ed would be admining the server).
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